Sup or Major Runes? - Guild Wars Forums

HKSdivision · Sep 01, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

First of all I'd like to know what you guys think works the best for PvE-usage. For example, going with a Sup Swordsmanship rune to get max 16 stats or using a Major Swordsmanship rune?

I use a Sup rune for my helm to get the max 16 for my weapon but do you guys think that I should change it and use a Major rune instead?

Thank you and I look forward to reading your responses.

EDIT: I forgot about my weapon set that added health too. At the time I was wielding a +HP (while Stanced) shield. But with a +30hp shield and +30 Sword Pommel I have 506 health. So I guess my health is fine.

Pae · Sep 01, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Personally, I usually just pick one attribute and use a Sup rune for that. For some farming builds or other people's preferences, two major runes are be used instead.

Random bit of info: Axes supposedly outdamage swords at 11 or higher in the mastery due to the critical hit damage. I tend to like Swordsmanship more anyway :P

Prof Of Black · Sep 01, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

First, I used +3 rune on my warrior.

It didnt work really well, I prefer HP.

Go for Major, imo.

~Prof.

Don Zardeone · Sep 01, 2007, 10:32 AM // 10:32

I'd say 500 health is a good amount to have. A lot of people like sup rune on headpiece while another good amount of people prefer minors all over the place.

If a lot of people you play with regularly have minors then i suggest going for 550-600+ health.
Swordwarriors are nice for that:
480base+30sword+30shield+50vigor= 590hp
You could add a rune of vitae somewhere.

The reason you want to have a similar amount of health as your partymembers is your monks and what partymembers expect you to do.

If your monks are used to healing a party with an average 600hp per member then they may not respond quickly enough to ZB or WoH you when you get below 50% health or they might throw a heal on you and overheal, making them waste energy.

For PvE, defense insignias and halth upgrades on your weaponry.

For PvP, depends on your team.

So to conclude: I'd keep it above 500hp, rune yourself to reach that =X

Buzzer · Sep 01, 2007, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Really, in PvE you should be using a superior. If youre getting to below 50 hp, youre playing wrong. Exceptions can be made for some hard mode stuff where large spike damage occurs.

Stormlord Alex · Sep 01, 2007, 11:01 AM // 11:01

Untill PvE becomes so unbearably hard that I need that extra 40hp... Sup all the way.

KazeMitsui · Sep 01, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

imo minors all the way what do you need 16 in something for?
14 imo wins

wilderness · Sep 01, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20

I have two types of armor sets for my war. One gladiator +energy type that has
+energy runes instead of attribute which I use for energy based builds and running.

The second type has three supers, ie: Super Absorb, Super Sword, Super Tactics. I prefer raw power over health with war. A good prot/heal back-line should be able to manage you even if you're -150 health.

The only other classes I use super for is Necro fro Death and Ele for Fire, the rest I use all minor runes.

Darkobra · Sep 01, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

Superior runes work fine for me. As long as on my warrior I can still absorb damage.

Buzzer · Sep 01, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazeMitsui

imo minors all the way what do you need 16 in something for?
14 imo wins

So 12 is just as good as 14 then?
Obviously the question is whether one can afford the health loss. And as said before, one sup shouldn't make a scrap of difference in survival if you know what you're doing.

Coloneh · Sep 01, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

minors unless i really need to reach a breakpoint. then superiors. never majors. the health loss for number of attributes dosnt balance out.

Nemo the Capitalist · Sep 01, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Minors work best
only Sup id use would be absorbtion for Tank =Warrior

btw knights armor used to be good before they nerfed it for all defensive purposes.

chowmein69 · Sep 04, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01

i dont really use major runes , only 1 supirior and minirs

Sep 01, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33	#1
HKSdivision Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	Sup or Major Runes? First of all I'd like to know what you guys think works the best for PvE-usage. For example, going with a Sup Swordsmanship rune to get max 16 stats or using a Major Swordsmanship rune? I use a Sup rune for my helm to get the max 16 for my weapon but do you guys think that I should change it and use a Major rune instead? Thank you and I look forward to reading your responses. EDIT: I forgot about my weapon set that added health too. At the time I was wielding a +HP (while Stanced) shield. But with a +30hp shield and +30 Sword Pommel I have 506 health. So I guess my health is fine. Last edited by HKSdivision; Sep 01, 2007 at 08:16 PM // 20:16..

Sep 01, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02	#2
Pae Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	Personally, I usually just pick one attribute and use a Sup rune for that. For some farming builds or other people's preferences, two major runes are be used instead. Random bit of info: Axes supposedly outdamage swords at 11 or higher in the mastery due to the critical hit damage. I tend to like Swordsmanship more anyway :P

Sep 01, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59	#3
Prof Of Black Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: @ Sensation Black Guild: Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance	First, I used +3 rune on my warrior. It didnt work really well, I prefer HP. Go for Major, imo. ~Prof.

Sep 01, 2007, 10:32 AM // 10:32	#4
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	I'd say 500 health is a good amount to have. A lot of people like sup rune on headpiece while another good amount of people prefer minors all over the place. If a lot of people you play with regularly have minors then i suggest going for 550-600+ health. Swordwarriors are nice for that: 480base+30sword+30shield+50vigor= 590hp You could add a rune of vitae somewhere. The reason you want to have a similar amount of health as your partymembers is your monks and what partymembers expect you to do. If your monks are used to healing a party with an average 600hp per member then they may not respond quickly enough to ZB or WoH you when you get below 50% health or they might throw a heal on you and overheal, making them waste energy. For PvE, defense insignias and halth upgrades on your weaponry. For PvP, depends on your team. So to conclude: I'd keep it above 500hp, rune yourself to reach that =X

Sep 01, 2007, 10:53 AM // 10:53	#5
Buzzer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Australia	Really, in PvE you should be using a superior. If youre getting to below 50 hp, youre playing wrong. Exceptions can be made for some hard mode stuff where large spike damage occurs.

Sep 01, 2007, 11:01 AM // 11:01	#6
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Untill PvE becomes so unbearably hard that I need that extra 40hp... Sup all the way.

Sep 01, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#7
KazeMitsui Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: pretty sure its all up in yo face Guild: [WHAT] Profession: R/	imo minors all the way what do you need 16 in something for? 14 imo wins

Sep 01, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20	#8
wilderness tinyurl.com/6hqar7a Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO] Profession: W/N	I have two types of armor sets for my war. One gladiator +energy type that has +energy runes instead of attribute which I use for energy based builds and running. The second type has three supers, ie: Super Absorb, Super Sword, Super Tactics. I prefer raw power over health with war. A good prot/heal back-line should be able to manage you even if you're -150 health. The only other classes I use super for is Necro fro Death and Ele for Fire, the rest I use all minor runes.

Sep 01, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#9
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Superior runes work fine for me. As long as on my warrior I can still absorb damage.

Sep 01, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#11
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	minors unless i really need to reach a breakpoint. then superiors. never majors. the health loss for number of attributes dosnt balance out.

Sep 01, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07	#12
Nemo the Capitalist Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair Guild: Zaishen Brotherhood Profession: N/Me	Minors work best only Sup id use would be absorbtion for Tank =Warrior btw knights armor used to be good before they nerfed it for all defensive purposes.

Sep 04, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01	#13
chowmein69 Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	i dont really use major runes , only 1 supirior and minirs